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Eyepieces
Eyepieces can be a challenge for this scope. At f/4.5 it is definitely
on the fast end of the scale. A fast scope is nice for wide angle deep
sky observing but it provides challenges as well. Most eyepieces have a
hard time coping with the steep light cone. Simple designs like
Ramsdens or even, dare I say, Huygens should not even be considered
with these scopes. Not that I haven't used them, but it isn't pretty.
Plössls can be used with an f/4.5 scope but there will still be
some edge issues. I use a masuyama 5 element design eyepiece and get
pretty good correction to the edges. The masuyama design is sometimes
labeled "super plössl." Plössl is such a hot term these days
it is on the verge of becoming meaningless as manufacturers rush to
label everything plössl.
Unfortunately, to truly deal with the steep light cone and get
excellent edge correction I would need very expensive eyepieces. I must again refer to my rule that no new piece for the scope can cost more than the scope. Oh well, so much for the Nalgers.
Fortunately, at this time, what I have is good enough for my viewing
needs. Here's what's in the eyepiece case as of now.
| I still have the original
eyepiece that came with the scope. It is
presumably a Kellner and from what I can gather it is 27 mm. It
probably
started out life as a binocular eyepiece as it has a diopter setting.
This is very rare in telescope eyepieces and Coulter likely shipped
these to make up for the lousy focusing ability of their focuser. It
came shipped in the same black and white boxes stamped "Made in Japan"
that my much newer Antares eyepiece came in. The
eyepiece
actually works pretty well. I'd say it has about a 50° apparent
field of view. On deep sky objects it is okay but on
bright
objects it suffers from internal reflections. This is not surprising
for a Kellner. How often do I look at planets with a 27 mm eyepiece
anyhow? I recently replaced it with the
30 mm eyepiece described below. I still pull out the Kellner for star parties when I don't want to have kids sticking their fingers on the 30mm's coatings. |
coulter kellner picture coming soon
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| I recently replaced the 27mm Kellner with this Celestron 30mm Ultima eyepiece which is
actually a five element masuyama design. What a difference! I am very satisfied by the new eyepiece. It has a 51° apparent field of view. The eye lens is about twice the diameter of the 27mm which makes viewing a joy. |
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| Ultima 18 picture coming soon |
My middle of the road eyepiece
is a Celestron Ultima 18 mm. It was my first of the three masuyama eyepieces I now own. I was comparing it with the
Antares Ultima and the Orion Ultrascopic (both essentially the same
eyepiece sometimes called a super plössl.) I settled on the
Celestron because it came in an 18 mm size
whereas the other two came only in 15 mm. At the time I did not have the 30mm Ultima but knew I would add it in a year. The 15 mm
would have been a waste as I can always throw the 30 mm into a Barlow to get the same magnification as the 15 mm. Because of exit pupil considerations I
don't want to go to a 32 mm eyepiece in this system. The Celestron was
a few dollars less expensive as well which doesn't hurt. It has a 51° apparent field of view. Interestingly, the Orion Ultrascopic and the Antares Ultima
both boast a 52° apparent field of view.
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Moving down in focal length I
have the 12.5 mm Celestron Ultima which
provides me with 72x (144x barlowed). It is also a nice eyepiece,
very similar to the 18 mm. This eyepiece also has a 51° apparent
field of view. 12mm is the "sweet spot" of this scope.
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Ultima 12 picture coming soon |

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I do have one eyepiece that I
hasten to even mention. It is a .965 inch
Japanese made 20 mm Huygen that was manufactured by, you guessed it,
Tasco. It has a
very narrow 32° apparent field of view. I had this
eyepiece sitting around from an old catadioptric f/7.9 "Tanzutsu" Tasco
telescope. I bought it in fourth grade and the scope cost about $30 at
a close-out store. It is the same one now sold by Celestron.
The only difference is that it is now sold on an alt-azimuth mount and
costs $100. It wasn't worth the $30 let alone $100! I wrapped this old
eyepiece in
electrical tape and friction fit it into a 35 mm film canister so it
would fit in a 1.25” focuser. At the time, I had only the 27 mm
eyepiece
and any other eyepiece was welcome. I also liked that it had a moon
filter so that made it useful to keep around. I naturally don't use it
anymore as it is outpaced by the 18 mm Ultima but I mention it because
it is nice to
remember that the people who came before use didn't have nice computer
designed super wide flat field eyepieces and they probably would have
thought my little Huygen was pretty high tech. I've barlowed it for
decent views of the ring nebula before and it produced a fairly bright sharp image. While the apparent field of
view is
very narrow (like looking through a paper towel tube) you can still see
the object you're observing. |
| The first new eyepiece I bought
when I got back into the hobby was a
6 mm Antares Orthoscopic. Antares is sort of a generic brand. All of
their products are made by the same manufacturers used by the large
brand name companies. The difference in cost usually reflects that the
original company is trying to re-coup development and advertising
costs. For example, the Antares dob telescopes are simply the
pre-digital setting circle Orion SkyQuest line. Now, my scope is really
not optimal for
looking at planets being that it is f/4.5 but I do enjoy it so I wanted
a crisp high power
eyepiece. The Orthoscopic is a good design for planets as it has only 4
elements and helps to maintain details. It has a 45° apparent field
of view. With a dobsonian, the widest possible actual field of view is
important as the target object being observed will move out of the
field quickly. This is especially important at high magnification. I
could have gotten slightly more true field of view with an Ultima
eyepiece like the 18 and 12 mm above but in theory the 4 element Ortho
should give slightly better images of the planets. The ultima should
have .04° more actual field of view than the ortho. I
have read that orthoscopics
are not so good for fast scopes like mine as they have trouble keeping
up with the steep light cone. There may be some
distortion at the edges of the field but I don't usually view Jupiter
at the edge of my field of view now do I? I actually haven't noticed
much of any problem with this but the eyepiece is still relatively new and I don't use it that often so the jury
is still out. I will probably never be able to tell as this scope is not good for planetary viewing. The Ultima is probably a better eyepiece for this scope. Oh well. |

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I have the ubiquitous orion 2x
shorty barlow
that does the
job. It is also fairly
new though so I won't comment on it until I put it thought the paces. |
With my eyepieces I get the following magnifications and fields of view.
Eyepiece
focal length
|
Power
|
Apparent
Field of
View
|
Approx
Actual
FOV |
Design
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Manufacturer
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| 30 mm |
30x
|
51°
|
1.70°
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Masuyama |
Celestron
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| 27 mm |
33.3x
|
unknown
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|
Kellner |
Coulter
|
20mm
|
45x |
32°
|
0.71° |
Huygen |
Modified Tasco
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| 18 mm |
50x
|
51° |
1.02° |
Masuyama/
Ultima |
Celestron |
| 30 mm + 2x Barlow |
60x
|
51° |
0.85° |
Masuyama/
Ultima |
Celestron |
| 27 mm + 2x Barlow |
66.6x
|
unknown
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Kellner
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Coulter
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| 12.5 mm |
72x
|
51° |
0.71° |
Masuyama/
Ultima |
Celestron |
| 20 mm + 2x Barlow |
90x
|
36x |
0.36° |
Huygen |
Modified Tasco
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| 18 mm + 2x Barlow |
100x
|
51° |
0.51° |
Masuyama/
Ultima |
Celestron |
| 12.5 mm + 2x Barlow |
144x |
51° |
0.35° |
Masuyama/
Ultima
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Celestron
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| 6 mm |
150x |
45° |
0.3° |
Orthoscopic |
Antares
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| 6 mm + 2x Barlow |
300x
|
45°
|
0.15° |
Orthoscopic |
Antares |
| I also have an Orion Narrowband
nebula filter that does a great job of
filtering out the ever-present sky glow from the twin cities and
suburbs. I do not have the broadband "Sky-Glow" filter as it really
doesn't do enough with
the amount of pollution present in many local viewing areas. There was
a pathetic 20 week backorder on the nebula filter. The whole astronomy
industry needs to get their act together! My moon
filter is from pro-optic. I went with their filter
because
it can be stacked with other filters whereas many of the other brands
cannot. In reality, this isn't necessairly true. All moon filters can
be stacked
provided the other filters being used are threaded on both sides.
The moon filter could
always be the last one in line and it wouldn't matter. I just like
being flexible. I recommend an aperture mask when viewing the moon with the filter as it is still very bright with all 8 inches of mirror collecting light. |
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